Inboard brakes, what up though?

"ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper" (thedlo)
12/04/2015 at 13:35 • Filed to: None

TBH, I think it would bother me too much not seeing them behind the wheels, even if they stopped like the dickens.

DISCUSSION (33)

Autohaus Derp > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:41

+1 for “...like the Dickens”

luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln! > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:41

The benefits are much less unsprung weight. Cons are, they don’t get as much cooling, and they are difficult to get to for maintenance. Rotor replacement, sucky job.

Party-vi > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:42

I think the benefit is less unsprung weight, not shorter stopping distances.

Zip-McBump > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:44

I don’t know, they’re pretty legit. After all, just lean over and look at the diff and be all like...

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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:45

Anything used on Jags and the GTV6 I am forbidden by law from disliking.

Jcarr > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:45

I love when things do things like the dickens. Fantastic phrase.

Jcarr > luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln!
12/04/2015 at 13:46

Seems like they would be more prone to getting dirty as well.

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > Party-vi
12/04/2015 at 13:47

Oh I know, I was mainly refering to the upgraded calipers, and how all that color and hardly anyone gets to see them.

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > Jcarr
12/04/2015 at 13:48

Oddly enough, no. they’re better protected there.

Party-vi > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:49

...what is this on?

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln!
12/04/2015 at 13:49

Im aware of the benifits, but yea, changing rotors means an axle job basically...

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > Party-vi
12/04/2015 at 13:50

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/1967-ford…

Party-vi > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:55

Interesting. I mean, those will definitely stop it.

luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln! > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 13:59

What car is in the pic?

BringBackTheCommodore > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 14:08

I’m curious about the physics behind this. It looks like it’ll definitely stop the vehicle (and maybe even minutely slow the rotation of the earth).

McMike > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 14:14

Great for unsprung weight. Not so great for maintenance.

At least you can reach those.

On E-Types? No so much.

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RallyWrench > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 14:16

These are a total bastard to work on when in the E-type, but the setup is great for custom builds. Also, I want your car.

AntiSpeed > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 14:19

They can still look pretty gnarly.

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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > McMike
12/04/2015 at 14:28

Is there any cogent reason the Metalastik bushings are shown as being left bolted to the frame, instead of the suspension carrier? WHY WOULD YOU DO IT THAT WAY

camaroboy68ss > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 14:38

I have never really liked the look either. This was a very popular trend in the 70s and 80s though for street rodders to stick jag rear ends under their early ford to go with either the mustang 2 or cochair front suspension. That looks like a Kugal rear end setup based on the rear end housing and lower a arms. Well engineered setups be super spendy

McMike > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
12/04/2015 at 14:46

You mean this part?

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Tim > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 15:24

Years ago I worked on E Types, I remember having to put someone inside the car to drop the brake pads down through an access port in the floor while I was underneath put the pins and cotters in the calipers.

It was a knuckle breaker.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > McMike
12/04/2015 at 15:30

Yep, that guy. There’s definitely a “teach your grandma to suck eggs” here, as you’ve had more to do with Es than I have, but I would have thought the option of taking it apart by using multiple tools in multiple places (the side bolt and the center stud) would be a little less straightforward than just pulling the chassis bolts. No fewer bolts, convenient working angle, not hard to line up, only one set of tools, and no risk of putting in the whole frame at a cockeyed angle of pitch and having to fight it away from that to get the side bolt in.

MadisonSuicide > luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln!
12/04/2015 at 15:45

In my head since I was a little kid, and through the years when I wasn’t really too “into” cars, this always seemed like the proper place to have the brakes. And in some ways it still just makes more sense to me. Probably because it just seems easier to put them there. Drums seemed like a really complicated way to work out what should have just been this since the dawn of the car.

kanadanmajava1 > ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper
12/04/2015 at 17:34

My friend raced an Alfa Romeo 75 in one local race class. They use inboard brakes and they are actually mounted in the sides of the transaxle. The heat buildup was a problem as they weren’t able to route fresh air under the car. The rules didn’t allow much modifications and the brakes had to stay where they were and air ducts routed through interior were also forbidden.

So maybe a good idea in normal driving but very bad idea in racing use.